Big News should be coming in the weeks ahead! If you are a male Curley, you can get involved by YDNA testing through FTDNA
UPDATES
5/2/2026 - Something
I did not see earlier and further evidence to support our brach was
Continental prior to the 1066 Invasion of
England, a brother SNP under L1066, which is estimated to have occurred
around 1950 BC, FTT22 appears to be solid
Continental, with modern descendants in Norway and Germany. This
demonstrates for the potential for the brother SNPs
A6127 and FTT22 to be Continental SNPs, whereas other sons under L1066 went
into Britain very early on during the
Bronze Age. In addition, we are still waiting for FTDNA to populate the
information for 2 sets of "new" ancient remains
found to be positive for the SNP L1066. I am specifically interested in
their age and locations. All FTDNA is saying is the
information will be available "soon".
Something else of high importance that was
not previously considered, the Clan Curley founder Big Y test through FTDNA
was done back in 2013 and unfortunately this test is missing anywhere from
25% to 50% of the SNP coverage the new
Big Y 700 test provides. Because of this, our timeline is not as accurate as
it should be so that will be rectified in the days
ahead because there will be an upgrade to Big Y 700. In the weeks ahead, we
will have 2 new Big Y 700 results for our Curley
lineage and finally be able to demonstrate the true age of this lineage and
the Curley surname.
4/19/2026 - Currently awaiting testing results which will be extremely valuable in
establishing the length of time this Curley family has
been connected to a variation of the Curley surname. I am expecting the
distance to be at least back to 1350 AD but it may
end up even further back. We will also have a new SNP under the SNP A6119, a
more recent SNP that will finally create a
branch in our Curley tree. This new SNP will represent an ancestor where the
lineage split into separate families.
4/18/2026
- Apparently 2 more sets of ancient remains have been found under the SNP
L1066, waiting for additional information to be
published, we do not know for certain what
the locations or age estimates are for these remains.
Ancient Remains Updates
Ancient DNA was found in Denmark, on the island of
Funen, that are positive for a grandparent of our A6119 SNP lineage. These
remains tested positive
for the SNP Z2185. This is a very significant discovery, it shows that there
were related populations in Scandinavia prior to the commencement of the
Viking age.
Unfortunately those testing the remains did not report a terminal/more
recent SNP, they stopped at Z2185. There isn't any way to know
at this
time if he is in our direct line under Z2185. This discovery is significant
however, it reshaping how the genealogy and scientific community view this
lineage
and other branches under L21. Originally L21 and its descendants were
primarily thought of as Atlantic or Insular Celtic but ancient remains have
proven
descendant branches of L21 were clearly in Scandinavia well before the
viking age started, these are native Scandinavians who lived there for
quite a long
time. There is a good possibility our A6127>A6119 lineage will be found in
acient remains in Denmark, and that those remains will pre-date the viking
age.
Pre-Viking and Viking Ancient Remains Discoveries - Applicable SNP Path - Z2185>Z2186>L1066>A6127>A6119
The Nymarksgård Z2185 Remains
The Öland Sweden L1066 Remains
These are some of the other surnames that are part of our A6119
lineage, where the shared ancestor for all these men is
estimated to have
lived
approximated 250 CE. This date may change as additional test results are
factored into the equation.
As shown below, we have a clear Norman
cluster of surnames. Where we have evidence of these names found together in
Normandy, we also have evidence of them found in the same are
in Ireland. This supports an Anglo Norman arrival in Ireland.
Ryan/Royan possibly
from - Rohan - Rouen (Norman)
Constant
possibly from Constantinus, Custance/Coustance de Cotentin (Norman)
Curley
possibly from de Criol, Kyriel, Curly or de Curli (Battle Abbey Roll)(Norman) there is also a
William Macarell that was listed as
being
part of the Strongbow Invasion.
Tilley/Flood/Tully possibly from de Tilley (Battle Abbey Roll) (Norman)
Tully/Tilley and Flood are connected from the Gaelic Tuile, which can
translate
back to Flood. It is possible members of the orginal de Tilley family later Gaelicized their name to a form
of Tuile, and then were later
Anglicized back to Tully and Flood.
Petty
possibly from le Petit - Ireland and Normandy
Burke
This does not appear to be the historical de Burgh
family but possibly a knight that may have taken the Burke surname very early
on,
around 1275 AD
McMahon
The McMahon family under our A6119 cluster may actually represent the Norman
FitzUrse family. FitzUrse means son of the bear -
McMahon means
son of the bear. Some of the FitzUrse descendants in Ireland became McMahons
because both names mean Son
of the bear. It's also possible it could
be a one off NPE lineage but as FirtzUrse it fits the lineage and pattern. Originally
the Oriel
McMahons claimed descent from FitzUrse but their DNA
does not match as it should and that claimed origin has been disproven.
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